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Thanks for your insights Muhammad and Gee. Gee, what are you referring to when you say "efused the costs of .arab or .arabic (idns) or any new idn extension" ?
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my only concern is if .arab gets the rtl thing first + email ect. otherwise I am pretty happy to get publicity for arabic idns (.com & .net)
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my only concern is if .arab gets the rtl thing first + email ect. otherwise I am pretty happy to get publicity for arabic idns (.com & .net)
RTL extension first, probably. The extension is doomed, IMO, though for political reasons. How about if we come up with a new extension called .caucasian? Would the americans buy into it? You know, the Iranians are the true "caucasians" as far as I have understood it...

Email? If you mean the username part of the email address, then this is independent of any extension being in punycode/unicode. Email programs are simply not built to encode/decode unicode usernames. Why they haven't adopted IDNA is beyond me, but I haven't really dug deeply into this topic - it could be something like the normalization ruleset can't possibly be as simple as it can be for domain names...

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I agree that the political issues will be HUGE and undoubtedly hinder .arab. Iran would probably go more for .caucasian than americans (damn thats hard to spell ). Only point is if they get rtl first then it gives them something to play with/market ect otherwise it will be worse than .asia or .eu ect.

not sure on the technical issues with email ect. just looking at features/services that might impact the ext favorable/unfavorably.

Not worried about it. a couple of arabic.nets hopefully will be juniors college fund

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RTL extension first, probably. The extension is doomed, IMO, though for political reasons. How about if we come up with a new extension called .caucasian? Would the americans buy into it? You know, the Iranians are the true "caucasians" as far as I have understood it...

Email? If you mean the username part of the email address, then this is independent of any extension being in punycode/unicode. Email programs are simply not built to encode/decode unicode usernames. Why they haven't adopted IDNA is beyond me, but I haven't really dug deeply into this topic - it could be something like the normalization ruleset can't possibly be as simple as it can be for domain names...

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They are just wasting their time.
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Email? If you mean the username part of the email address, then this is independent of any extension being in punycode/unicode. Email programs are simply not built to encode/decode unicode usernames.
I meant both the username and domain, but Unicode will come in mailers too. It's not implemented yet also because of the phishing I think :-(
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Thanks for your insights Muhammad and Gee. Gee, what are you referring to when you say "refused the costs of .arab or .arabic (idns) or any new idn extension" ?
those arab ,who contacted ICANN to see how much will it cost to launch a new arabic idn extension , are much desperate after realizing that they are going to pay ICANN millions of money for a new extension with no guaranteed success or at least to compete with idn.coms

they went for new extension rather than already active idn.coms in the first place to avoid paying much money for many premium IDNs taken by greedy owners.... now they will pay more to ICANN

however I disagree with Muhammad mustafa concerning new extension success and I believe if .arab(idn) is launched it will achieve marvelous success...

it is all a matter of money .. if it costs arab low fees to get it launched so they can offer new registrations for 7$ like .coms or even cheaper ... surely it will succeed....

the problem is not in the extension itself or the language but the problem with money wise calculations connected to it.
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Great post Gee many thanks
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Yes, ICANN has been a complete failure, really.
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